>> we're going there next and i had to have something to talk about. >> why is mitt romney not making more hay with the problems of dodd-frank on the stump? >> i think in the debate -- did you see the debate? >> yeah, but it hasn't been as huge of a talk point as i would have expected. >> maybe they're watching. >> to see if it works? >> no see that kate kelly thinks that there -- there is no doubt that small banks are a part of the problem here. and small business is not being able to get loans right now. >> someone put to me yesterday, they're getting out their pitch forks and torches against what dodd-frank will do with them. >> there's more than five, that was the point made yesterday. >> more than five banks who became systemically important and beneficiaries of all this. >> so you're a little monster, are you going to talk in chairs about -- >> you want me to talk about -- >> to spell gaga, you have to first spell gag. that's a tease. >> we'll talk a little lady gaga after the break. >>> still to come, guest host ken langone will cover the economy, candidates, education. and the